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		<title>By: Roberta Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.personalityplusinbusiness.com/2009/repeat-after-me-i-am-not-a-label.html/comment-page-1#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberta Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandy,

Thanks for letting me repost your article on my blog at http://www.assessmentstoday.com/2009/02/what-does-your-name-tag-personality-badge-say.html

I was actually in the process of writing a post in a similar vein and this made a great addition.

Roberta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy,</p>
<p>Thanks for letting me repost your article on my blog at <a href="http://www.assessmentstoday.com/2009/02/what-does-your-name-tag-personality-badge-say.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.assessmentstoday.com/2009/02/what-does-your-name-tag-personality-badge-say.html</a></p>
<p>I was actually in the process of writing a post in a similar vein and this made a great addition.</p>
<p>Roberta</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy McMullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy McMullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few things come to mind about how I work with the MBTI with people. First is that I have a commitment and intention behind my coaching practice. I believe that we do the best most fulfilling creative and sustainable work when our actions are congruent with who we are. 

Tools like the MBTI and Enneagram and Reiss are mirrors to use to see a more accurate reflection. All of this happens in the context of a conversation that has a purpose behind it.

For example, any MBTI workshops that I have done as an associate of Context Management Consulting Inc. have been part of a larger strategic framework. Context works to implement strategy through ongoing Action Learning groups in cross functional teams as well as regular retreats for intact teams etc. The MBTI workshops were integrated into these retreats when appropriate and linked to a larger context.

In additon to the workshop individual coaching followed. Some of the focus integrated the Hay groups Emotional Competency Inventory and the insights from the MBTI to help deepen the learning and build capability.

Two things stand out - that the MBTI was part of a leadership development strategy - that there was both a group and individual opportunity for reflection on applying insights.

It was not delivered as a &quot;one off&quot; event that was entertaining or interesting. As I mentioned in my post above I am also careful with language and asking permission to share personal information during the workshop or coaching. My intention is to set the stage for people to take the risks to have a more meaningful conversation (a least that&#039;s the plan) Creating this kind of container for good work to happen is subtle and an art form. When it happens I celebrate when it doesn&#039;t I learn and go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things come to mind about how I work with the MBTI with people. First is that I have a commitment and intention behind my coaching practice. I believe that we do the best most fulfilling creative and sustainable work when our actions are congruent with who we are. </p>
<p>Tools like the MBTI and Enneagram and Reiss are mirrors to use to see a more accurate reflection. All of this happens in the context of a conversation that has a purpose behind it.</p>
<p>For example, any MBTI workshops that I have done as an associate of Context Management Consulting Inc. have been part of a larger strategic framework. Context works to implement strategy through ongoing Action Learning groups in cross functional teams as well as regular retreats for intact teams etc. The MBTI workshops were integrated into these retreats when appropriate and linked to a larger context.</p>
<p>In additon to the workshop individual coaching followed. Some of the focus integrated the Hay groups Emotional Competency Inventory and the insights from the MBTI to help deepen the learning and build capability.</p>
<p>Two things stand out &#8211; that the MBTI was part of a leadership development strategy &#8211; that there was both a group and individual opportunity for reflection on applying insights.</p>
<p>It was not delivered as a &#8220;one off&#8221; event that was entertaining or interesting. As I mentioned in my post above I am also careful with language and asking permission to share personal information during the workshop or coaching. My intention is to set the stage for people to take the risks to have a more meaningful conversation (a least that&#8217;s the plan) Creating this kind of container for good work to happen is subtle and an art form. When it happens I celebrate when it doesn&#8217;t I learn and go on.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this point.  

James Flaherty, in &quot;Coaching - Evoking Excellence in Others&quot;, points out that personality profiling leads us to expect certain behaviours from others which influences that person&#039;s behaviour and frames our observation of that person.  And these two factors, coupled with laziness leads us into one of the main hindrances of coaching, which is to understand people as a collection for fixed properties with desire attached.

In the book he proposes assessment models which he claims give form and shape to our observations without limiting the person to parameters.  

The idea of putting MBTI labels on office doors is exactly what he is highlighting.  It is easier to say - &quot;She is an ISTJ&quot; than it is to understand and formulate a view of her concerns, commitments, history, future possibilities, mood, domains of competence, Intellect, emotion, will, context and soul (to outline JF&#039;s assessment models).

 I have used MBTI in exercises with teams, allowing people to comment and draw comment on what they agree with and what they don&#039;t.  In my experience this has provided an excellent framework, for mutual understanding.   In coaching however I have started using JF&#039;s (and others&#039;) approach.  Having said that, I also know that MBTI takes us to the same understanding if we are prepared to do the hard work required to get beyond a tetragrammaton.

Sandy, what process do you build into your work to prevent the kind of response you describe in this posting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this point.  </p>
<p>James Flaherty, in &#8220;Coaching &#8211; Evoking Excellence in Others&#8221;, points out that personality profiling leads us to expect certain behaviours from others which influences that person&#8217;s behaviour and frames our observation of that person.  And these two factors, coupled with laziness leads us into one of the main hindrances of coaching, which is to understand people as a collection for fixed properties with desire attached.</p>
<p>In the book he proposes assessment models which he claims give form and shape to our observations without limiting the person to parameters.  </p>
<p>The idea of putting MBTI labels on office doors is exactly what he is highlighting.  It is easier to say &#8211; &#8220;She is an ISTJ&#8221; than it is to understand and formulate a view of her concerns, commitments, history, future possibilities, mood, domains of competence, Intellect, emotion, will, context and soul (to outline JF&#8217;s assessment models).</p>
<p> I have used MBTI in exercises with teams, allowing people to comment and draw comment on what they agree with and what they don&#8217;t.  In my experience this has provided an excellent framework, for mutual understanding.   In coaching however I have started using JF&#8217;s (and others&#8217;) approach.  Having said that, I also know that MBTI takes us to the same understanding if we are prepared to do the hard work required to get beyond a tetragrammaton.</p>
<p>Sandy, what process do you build into your work to prevent the kind of response you describe in this posting?</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Nuttall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter Nuttall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forcing people to post their MBTI type on their doors would surely be resisted by a lot of people. I&#039;d like it personally, but many people freak out about being labeled.

Notice that we only mind labels when they&#039;re negative. Face it, we couldn&#039;t communicate without labels. We label ourselves with names and job titles, we say &quot;I&#039;m a motorcycle enthusiast&quot; or &quot;I&#039;m a pizza lover,&quot; we like it when people call us &quot;smart&quot; or &quot;nice.&quot;

All these labels are fine, but call someone by a label that sounds negative, and they&#039;ll suddenly be all &quot;Don&#039;t label me!&quot; As the MBTI labels are simply about our preferences, none of them are bad. It doesn&#039;t make sense to be offended by your own preferences.

I think people resist these labels because they don&#039;t understand them. They think that learning your type somehow limits your options, or tells you that you&#039;re bad at something. Nonsense. Knowledge is power.

Another thing is that everyone is labeling us anyway. Remaining ignorant about our type will do nothing to protect us from peoples&#039; negative judgments. I&#039;d much rather be called an INTP by someone who&#039;s been educated about the MBTI, rather than be called &quot;shy,&quot; &quot;flaky,&quot; &quot;heartless,&quot; or &quot;lazy&quot; by uninformed people.

BTW, I&#039;m building a list of peoples&#039; self-reported MBTI types. My URL points directly to that, if you want to take a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forcing people to post their MBTI type on their doors would surely be resisted by a lot of people. I&#8217;d like it personally, but many people freak out about being labeled.</p>
<p>Notice that we only mind labels when they&#8217;re negative. Face it, we couldn&#8217;t communicate without labels. We label ourselves with names and job titles, we say &#8220;I&#8217;m a motorcycle enthusiast&#8221; or &#8220;I&#8217;m a pizza lover,&#8221; we like it when people call us &#8220;smart&#8221; or &#8220;nice.&#8221;</p>
<p>All these labels are fine, but call someone by a label that sounds negative, and they&#8217;ll suddenly be all &#8220;Don&#8217;t label me!&#8221; As the MBTI labels are simply about our preferences, none of them are bad. It doesn&#8217;t make sense to be offended by your own preferences.</p>
<p>I think people resist these labels because they don&#8217;t understand them. They think that learning your type somehow limits your options, or tells you that you&#8217;re bad at something. Nonsense. Knowledge is power.</p>
<p>Another thing is that everyone is labeling us anyway. Remaining ignorant about our type will do nothing to protect us from peoples&#8217; negative judgments. I&#8217;d much rather be called an INTP by someone who&#8217;s been educated about the MBTI, rather than be called &#8220;shy,&#8221; &#8220;flaky,&#8221; &#8220;heartless,&#8221; or &#8220;lazy&#8221; by uninformed people.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m building a list of peoples&#8217; self-reported MBTI types. My URL points directly to that, if you want to take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t agree more! (Although I&#039;d have to replace MBTI with &quot;Enneagram&quot; :-)

Your timely post reminds me of my favourite book, that I recommend to all clients: Anthony De Mello&#039;s &quot;Awareness&quot;. He explores dropping our labels in depth. Here&#039;s a link to amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Awareness-Anthony-Mello/dp/0385249373/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1233855811&amp;sr=8-1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more! (Although I&#8217;d have to replace MBTI with &#8220;Enneagram&#8221; <img src='http://www.personalityplusinbusiness.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Your timely post reminds me of my favourite book, that I recommend to all clients: Anthony De Mello&#8217;s &#8220;Awareness&#8221;. He explores dropping our labels in depth. Here&#8217;s a link to amazon: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Awareness-Anthony-Mello/dp/0385249373/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1233855811&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Awareness-Anthony-Mello/dp/0385249373/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1233855811&amp;sr=8-1</a></p>
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